Tuesday, March 6, 2012

permissibilty of Organisaion; according to salafi scholars


All praise be to Allah,
permissibilty of Organisaion; according to salafi scholars
Let me make it clear to you insha’Allah and I pray to Allah to open your hearts to haq as well me too.
Ibnu baaz rahimahullah’s fatwa is based on the question “Giving opinion on “establishing a scholarly Salafy organization” under the name The Qur'an and Sunnah Charitable Association in Khartoum – Sudan” let us analyze the question & answer mentioned in the fatwa by Ibnu Baaz rahimahullah in brief insha Allah.
Questions:-
  1. We are a group of Du`ah (callers to Islam) and seekers of Islamic knowledge in Sudan
  2. We cooperate with all those who make Da`wah in the right and proper way
  3. Our work is mainly to establish educational centers, build Masjids (mosques), religious institutes, schools for Qur'an memorization, and public libraries. We also release beneficial books, scholarly studies, and tapes.
  4. We thus founded a scholarly Salafy organization that is run by a group of graduates of different Islamic universities in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.
  5. The concerned organization was started by graduates who have studied under the most knowledgeable Shaykhs of Salafiyyah
  6. it known as the Qur'an and Sunnah Charitable Association in Khartoum
  7. The question now is whether it is permissible to work towards achieving the goals mentioned above through the concerned association?
These are the pertinent issues in the questions asked to Ibnu Baaz rahimahullah and he categorically responded to that as “The approach that you referred to above is a right approach that we advise you to stay firm on. We enjoin you to cooperate with all other Du`ahs in Sudan andanywhere else in all that conforms to Qur'an, Sunnah, and the practice of Salaf.
What does it mean, a madrasa student of knm or even sunni, would say that ibnu Baaz rahimahullah did not oppose forming of organization named “Scholarly salafy Organisation” or charitable association rather he encouraged them to stay firm on that for the betterment of Islam and Muslims. But when knm does so, people like you blindly labeling them Hizbee and alleging on them innovators. Was Ibnu Baaz rahimahullah a Hizbee by supporting salafy Organisation of Sudan?!! Those Athikaad group would dare to call even Ibnu Baaz if he speak against their “varolla, sangadana thinmma” mahadallah!!


Your Hizbiyah to Zubair maulavi revealed more clear by manipulating the two fatwas of Uthameen rahimahullah unscrupulously. These two fatwas are given from two different contexts. The fatwa I sent is talking about the Muslim minority countries (other thanIslaamic countries like India). This fatwa has been given in the category of Important fataawa concerning Muslims living as a minority in non-Muslim lands      @http://www.fatwa-online.com/fataawa/muslimminorities/0000903_1.htm


Let us analyse this too insha’Allah
Questions:-
The main questions asked here is that “We would like to know if it is obligatory for the Muslims to establish societies and centres or if there is nothing wrong in them continuing to live as individuals. Also, if they do come together, what is the legal authority, according to Islaam, with respect to obedience and to what you have indicated previously, of anelected organisation that manages the affairs of the Muslim minorities.
We can brief it for better understanding as follows
1. enquiring to Uthaimeen rahimahullah’s opinion of living as individuals in non Islamic countries (example like India)
2. Is it obligatory for Muslims living in other than Islamic countries to establish societies and centers?
3. What is the legal authority according to Islam with respect to elected organization and that manages the affairs of the Muslim minorities?

Uthaimeen rahimahullah categorically responded to the above as follows
  1. it is not possible for a group of people who are fragmented and living as individuals to put up any resistance.
  2. Muslim minorities must form groups that invite to Allaah and that they have an Ameer having the qualities we mentioned previously and who they can consult with.
  3. I cannot give a general rule as to how this should be structured exactly. These societies vary in number of their members, and in their material strength and, capabilities. However, it they areblessed with wisdom, this will enable them to form a society or group in a way that can help them to achieve their aims.
Alhamdulillah it is very clear from the answers of Uthaimeen rahimahullah for any person who blessed with wisdom that in Muslim minority countries Muslims should not live like Zubair Mankada followers as isolated or fragmented as in Athikaad, Nilambur and elsewhere rather they MUST FORM groups like elected organization to manage the affairs of the Muslim minorities (KNM, likewise). He added that it is not possible to give a general rule as to how this organization should be structured exactly since there will be varied in number of MEMBERS, material strength and capabilities. He further said that if this organization is blessed with members of wisdom that would help them to achieve their aims and goals, the same I pointed out in my blog.
Alhamdulillah, the deviant interpretations of you and Zubair and his ignorant followers are became baatil through the clear explanations of Uthaimeen rahimahullah and Ibnu Baaz rahimahullah. 
If someone deliberately declared something as Bidha that actually is not a matter of religion then what is the ruling in Islam?!! This shaitaaniyath, deceptive tactics has been followed by all deviants to mislead Muslim Ummah from the teaching of Islam. The khawareej declared something Shirk which actually was not shirk in Islam and this ploy has adopted by Zubair mankada and hence, he labeled all organizations are Bidha, a matter newly invented thing in dheen (sangadana thinma page number 18). I seek refuge with Allah. Due to this heretics and deviant interpretations by maulavi Zubair mankada, against the consensus of salafi scholars, he made up a group of adamant layman to call entire Muslims as Mubtadi. He built up a new “dheen” upon this falsehood to lead war against pious and God fearing Muslims of Kerala.
The unique and attractive style of presentation of Zubair maulavi clubbed haq with many lies and falsehood, has been attracted the unfortunate youths to Athikaad camp in Nilambur that instigated them to wage war and hostile campaigns against organizations, organisaed Da’wa, scholars and daees in Kerala. Due to this heretics of Zubair and his followers further led them to declare that majority of the Mujaahids (knm) are committing shirk by keeping 25 paisa in their waist for barakah/ blessings, collected from Panakad Thangal (ex leader of kuboori Ek sunni). Naudubillah.  May Allah save the Muslim Ummah from this new fitnah. Aameen ya rabil aalameen. 
With keeping all respect as I have had I advice you with naseeh to depart from the fitnah of spreading lies and falsehood and join and cooperate with the mainstream Muslims those work in the cause of Islam and Muslims and the betterment of them in religiously, educationally, socially etc.  May Allah guide us into the straight path and forgives our mistakes. Aameen. 
And say, "Truth has come, and falsehood has departed. Indeed is falsehood, [by nature], ever bound to depart."
Barakallahu feek

5 comments:

യാത്രികന്‍ said...

Assalaamu alaikum can u post this in malayalam? it will more usefull for public

ABUHANIYYA said...

wa alaikum salaam wa rahmatullah, it was a debate with "zubair yesman" in english. insha' Allah if possible will try to translate into malayalam.
Barakallu feek

salafi said...

In short, Muslim minorities like india must form groups that invite to Allaah.. enough evidence for KNM….!!!!!
SO what about islahi centers in gulf whr are lot of scholars and Jaliyath available?? Islahi centres can be seen very near to Jaliyath, even though there is malayalam daee frm same group... so this is not matter of Dawa but politics only...

ABUHANIYYA said...

@ salafi, alhamdulillah rest of the things mentioned in the blogs seemed to be agreed and so, abstain from spreading lies and falsehood on organisations. regarding the gulf centers, who given them permission to run, the same authority who runs such jaliyath and great salafi scholars have so far do not objected such centers. the pertinent issue here is that to enhance the facility for spreading Islam among the people who speak different languages like malayalam, urdhu, english, french etc and Allah knows the best

salafi said...

We can see centers for both samasthas and mujahids, JIH etc are working here for the sake of their parent org in kerala… just a replica… they bring all fitna from their parent organization and spread across the centers… For example currnt Jinn vividam in KNM… both fraction celebrates this thru bylux with the support of “scholars in kerala”…if their aim was deen and dawa they would have returned this matter to the scholars over here….. but they never… they want their usual style of politics only. If their aim was dawa, Jaaliyath was enough for them.. but never, they want to play politics always, tht is why all groups are making these centers everywhere…
Then other points that you mentioned…How can you do qiyas these points for KNM… the said organization is “scholarly Salafy organization that is run by a group of graduates of different Islamic universities in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia”
Do you claim that KNM is scholarly Salafy organization??? Even KNM claim officially that this organization for common people- pothu janam ( But as usual your writing about knm is like “ rajaavinekkal valiya rajabhakthi” ). Yes that is why Shykh Obaid advised KNM to give their control to trustworthy scholars who are well grounded in Aqeedah and Manahaj, But who were going to listen these advises?. If they had done like this, common people could have avoided to witness the current dirtypolitcs play of KNM in the name of dawa…..