Partisan / sect and organization

All praise be to Allah,

Firstly we should understand the differences of partisan / sect with organization.  All the scholars I mentioned have permitted organization meanwhile sects or partisan not as uthaimeen rahimahullah said.  It is clear from his answer to different two questions that sect or partisan is differing from organizations.

There are only two parties exist in the world from the religious point of view i.e. Hizbullah/ party of Allah and hizbushaitaan/ party of shaitaan. The first group always steadfast with teaching of Islam and would invite people to Islam meanwhile the second, hizbushaitaan will mislead people from the haq, true religion of Allah and the sunnah of beloved prophet salallahu wa alyhi wasalam.  In short one group is upon the truth and guidance and the other will be upon the falsehood and misguidance.  This saved sect can be seen all over the world in different names but their aqeeda and manhaj will be same based on Qur’an hadiths with the understanding of pious predecessors meantime others divided into sectarian and partisanship with their misguidance.  So brother when we are analyzing Muslims who are part of organization or not we must look into their Aqeeda and actions as Ibnu Baaz rahimahullah pointed out. The same explanation you can read from Sheikh Fawzan hafidahullah as below:-

Question:

Is the one who affiliates himself with the various (Islamic) groups to be considered an innovator?

Answer:

This depends upon the nature of the groups. The one who affiliates himself with those groups that have some opposition to the Book and the Sunnah is to be considered an innovator.

Shaykh Saalih al-Fawzaan

Al-Ajwibah al-Mufidah, compiled by Jamal bin Farihan al-Harithi.

Translated by Abu `Iyaad Amjad Rafiq

http://www.fatwaislam.com/fis/index.cfm?scn=fd&ID=29

It is very clear from that Sheikh Fawzan hafidahullah did not consider those groups or organizations as you and Zubair maulavi Mankada wrongly understood. But you allege those having opinion of Ibnu Baaz rahimahullah on organization is worshipping scholars!! (see your words “I dont want statement of scholars I want evidence as a Muslim can only follow evidence they wont worship scholars”). You are seemed to me as “misguided” by Zubair’s book, sangadana Thinma (organization is an evil) as he called Hizbiyyah as Sangadana. So, who is the innovator here?!! Apart from this even Sheikh Ubaid al Jabiree hafidahullah did not consider organization is a Bid’ah or an evil in his fatwa to Indian Muslims rather said that he is ready to cooperate with such organization (knm) if they change according to his advice (this issue is an another subject).  You can see some favourable statements of salafi scholars to organization of Ahle hadith of India like Shaykh Muhammad Ibn 'Abdullaah As-Subayyal , a member of council of senior Scholars as well as the Imaam and khateeb of Masjid Al-Haraam in Makkah. Previously, he has served as the president of affairs of two holy Masaajid – Masjid Al-Haram in Makkah and Prophet's Masjid in Madinah. http://www.ahya.org/amm/modules.php?name=Sections&op=viewarticle&artid=239. You might hear that Sheikh Subayyal had participated in the function of Organization of KNM in Kerala earlier as Sheikh rabee hafidahullah too. Furthermore Sheikh Ubaid hafidahullah had taken part in salafi conference in Birmingham and the time being let me conclude here with a quote something related with our topic ORGANISATION from the same as follows :-

We praise Allaah, and are forever grateful to Him, that He has allowed a number of organizations, masaajid and individuals from different localities within the United States, to collaborate on the organization of our first annual conference, “In Defense of the Salafi Manhaj”. We ask Allaah to aid us, help us, and make our intentions sincerely for His sake; indeed He is capable of all things. All praise is due to Allaah, that over the last ten years, we haveorganized numerous conferences concerning a large amount of topics, a number of them alongside our elder and brother Abu Uwais - rahimahullaah. We have had participation from our Scholars, such as Imaam Muqbil Ibn Haadee al-Wasdi’ee (d.1420H), al-’Allaamah Rabee’ Ibn Haadee al-Madkhalee, al-’Allaamah Ahmad Ibn Yahyaa an-Najmee (d.1429H), al-’Allaamah ‘Ubayd Ibn ‘Abdullaah al-Jaabiree, and many others; not to mention the conference that was organized not two months prior with Shaykh Falaah Ibn Ismaa’eel! So how can it be said that the organizers believe this to be the first Salafi conference in the United States, wallaahul-musta’aan(and Allaah is the One from whom aid is sought)!

Nevertheless, so as not to give the Shaytaan an opportunity to place dubious thoughts in the hearts of our brothers and sisters, we have removed the phrase “First Annual Salafi Conference” from the flier. A well said explanation to Zubair maulavi and his yesmen like you from Salafi organization of United state of America. http://salaficonference.com/?paged=2

Let me remind you about the Hizbushaitaan and the ways in which Satan approaches man to invite him toward evil. Satan works on a common human weakness related to making one quickly assume something negative about the other. He thus infuses suspicion and doubt in the hearts of Muslims making them think badly about one another, and provoking them against one another. For example, Satan considers sowing the seeds of discord between a husband and wife as one of his greatest achievements. The Prophet salallahu wa alhi wasalam said: "Iblis places his throne upon water; he then sends detachments (for creating dissension between people); the nearer to him in rank are those who are most notorious in creating dissension. One of them comes and says: “I did so and so.” And he says: “You have done nothing.” Then one amongst them comes and says: “I did not spare so and so until I sowed the seed of discord between a husband and a wife.” Satan goes near him and says: “You have done well.” He then embraces him” (Sahih Muslim and narrated by Jabir Ibn ‘Abdullah).

May Allah save us from all deceptive tricks of shaitaan by creating dissension between Muslims in the name organizations, organized da’wa etc to deprive Muslims from the obligatory duty of Da’wa. Aameen

Barakallahu feek

permissibilty of Organisaion; according to salafi scholars

All praise be to Allah,

permissibilty of Organisaion; according to salafi scholars

Let me make it clear to you insha’Allah and I pray to Allah to open your hearts to haq as well me too.

Ibnu baaz rahimahullah’s fatwa is based on the question “Giving opinion on “establishing a scholarly Salafy organization” under the name The Qur'an and Sunnah Charitable Association in Khartoum – Sudan” let us analyze the question & answer mentioned in the fatwa by Ibnu Baaz rahimahullah in brief insha Allah.

Questions:-

1. We are a group of Du`ah (callers to Islam) and seekers of Islamic knowledge in Sudan
2. We cooperate with all those who make Da`wah in the right and proper way
3. Our work is mainly to establish educational centers, build Masjids (mosques), religious institutes, schools for Qur'an memorization, and public libraries. We also release beneficial books, scholarly studies, and tapes.
4. We thus founded a scholarly Salafy organization that is run by a group of graduates of different Islamic universities in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.
5. The concerned organization was started by graduates who have studied under the most knowledgeable Shaykhs of Salafiyyah
6. it known as the Qur'an and Sunnah Charitable Association in Khartoum
7. The question now is whether it is permissible to work towards achieving the goals mentioned above through the concerned association?

These are the pertinent issues in the questions asked to Ibnu Baaz rahimahullah and he categorically responded to that as “The approach that you referred to above is a right approach that we advise you to stay firm on. We enjoin you to cooperate with all other Du`ahs in Sudan andanywhere else in all that conforms to Qur'an, Sunnah, and the practice of Salaf.

What does it mean, a madrasa student of knm or even sunni, would say that ibnu Baaz rahimahullah did not oppose forming of organization named “Scholarly salafy Organisation” or charitable association rather he encouraged them to stay firm on that for the betterment of Islam and Muslims. But when knm does so, people like you blindly labeling them Hizbee and alleging on them innovators. Was Ibnu Baaz rahimahullah a Hizbee by supporting salafy Organisation of Sudan?!! Those Athikaad group would dare to call even Ibnu Baaz if he speak against their “varolla, sangadana thinmma” mahadallah!!

Your Hizbiyah to Zubair maulavi revealed more clear by manipulating the two fatwas of Uthameen rahimahullah unscrupulously. These two fatwas are given from two different contexts. The fatwa I sent is talking about the Muslim minority countries (other thanIslaamic countries like India). This fatwa has been given in the category of Important fataawa concerning Muslims living as a minority in non-Muslim lands      @http://www.fatwa-online.com/fataawa/muslimminorities/0000903_1.htm

Let us analyse this too insha’Allah

Questions:-

The main questions asked here is that “We would like to know if it is obligatory for the Muslims to establish societies and centres or if there is nothing wrong in them continuing to live as individuals. Also, if they do come together, what is the legal authority, according to Islaam, with respect to obedience and to what you have indicated previously, of anelected organisation that manages the affairs of the Muslim minorities.

We can brief it for better understanding as follows

1. enquiring to Uthaimeen rahimahullah’s opinion of living as individuals in non Islamic countries (example like India)

2. Is it obligatory for Muslims living in other than Islamic countries to establish societies and centers?

3. What is the legal authority according to Islam with respect to elected organization and that manages the affairs of the Muslim minorities?

Uthaimeen rahimahullah categorically responded to the above as follows

1. it is not possible for a group of people who are fragmented and living as individuals to put up any resistance.
2. Muslim minorities must form groups that invite to Allaah and that they have an Ameer having the qualities we mentioned previously and who they can consult with.
3. I cannot give a general rule as to how this should be structured exactly. These societies vary in number of their members, and in their material strength and, capabilities. However, it they areblessed with wisdom, this will enable them to form a society or group in a way that can help them to achieve their aims.

Alhamdulillah it is very clear from the answers of Uthaimeen rahimahullah for any person who blessed with wisdom that in Muslim minority countries Muslims should not live like Zubair Mankada followers as isolated or fragmented as in Athikaad, Nilambur and elsewhere rather they MUST FORM groups like elected organization to manage the affairs of the Muslim minorities (KNM, likewise). He added that it is not possible to give a general rule as to how this organization should be structured exactly since there will be varied in number of MEMBERS, material strength and capabilities. He further said that if this organization is blessed with members of wisdom that would help them to achieve their aims and goals, the same I pointed out in my blog.

Alhamdulillah, the deviant interpretations of you and Zubair and his ignorant followers are became baatil through the clear explanations of Uthaimeen rahimahullah and Ibnu Baaz rahimahullah. 

If someone deliberately declared something as Bidha that actually is not a matter of religion then what is the ruling in Islam?!! This shaitaaniyath, deceptive tactics has been followed by all deviants to mislead Muslim Ummah from the teaching of Islam. The khawareej declared something Shirk which actually was not shirk in Islam and this ploy has adopted by Zubair mankada and hence, he labeled all organizations are Bidha, a matter newly invented thing in dheen (sangadana thinma page number 18). I seek refuge with Allah. Due to this heretics and deviant interpretations by maulavi Zubair mankada, against the consensus of salafi scholars, he made up a group of adamant layman to call entire Muslims as Mubtadi. He built up a new “dheen” upon this falsehood to lead war against pious and God fearing Muslims of Kerala.

The unique and attractive style of presentation of Zubair maulavi clubbed haq with many lies and falsehood, has been attracted the unfortunate youths to Athikaad camp in Nilambur that instigated them to wage war and hostile campaigns against organizations, organisaed Da’wa, scholars and daees in Kerala. Due to this heretics of Zubair and his followers further led them to declare that majority of the Mujaahids (knm) are committing shirk by keeping 25 paisa in their waist for barakah/ blessings, collected from Panakad Thangal (ex leader of kuboori Ek sunni). Naudubillah.  May Allah save the Muslim Ummah from this new fitnah. Aameen ya rabil aalameen. 

With keeping all respect as I have had I advice you with naseeh to depart from the fitnah of spreading lies and falsehood and join and cooperate with the mainstream Muslims those work in the cause of Islam and Muslims and the betterment of them in religiously, educationally, socially etc.  May Allah guide us into the straight path and forgives our mistakes. Aameen. 

And say, "Truth has come, and falsehood has departed. Indeed is falsehood, [by nature], ever bound to depart."

Barakallahu feek

Co-operation and Organisation according to scholars of salafiyyah

All praise be to Allah,

Assalamu alaikum,

Sub: Co-operation and organisation

See the evidence for forming groups and organizations from Uthaimeen rahimahullah and Ibnu baaz rahimahullah and may Allah open up our hearts to haq from the prejudiced and predominant thoughts.

Shaykh Ibn 'Uthaymeen

al-Aqalliyaat al-Muslimah - Page 62, Fatwa No.1  @ http://www.fatwa-online.com/fataawa/muslimminorities/0000903_1.htm

Question: In Muslim countries, many organisations practice the concept of co-operation and joint responsibility between the Muslims. Allaah, the Exalted, says, {The believers, both men and women, are friends and helpers to one another}, [Soorah at-Towbah, Aayah 71].

And the Prophet (sal-Allaahu `alayhe wa sallam) said: ((Whoever dies and leaves behind him wealth then it is for his heirs and whoever leaves behind him the poor and hungry then they are for me and they are my responsibility)) However, other than in Islaamic countries, Muslims are often living as individuals. We would like to know if it is obligatory for the Muslims to establish societies and centres or if there is nothing wrong in them continuing to live as individuals. Also, if they do come together, what is the legal authority, according to Islaam, with respect to obedience and to what you have indicated previously, of an elected organisation that manages the affairs of the Muslim minorities.

Response: 
All praise is for Allaah and prayers and peace be upon our Prophet, Muhammad, and upon all his family and companions. In my opinion, it is not possible for a group of people who are fragmented and living as individuals to put up any resistance. Mankind is by nature social and is in need of help from others, besides the help of Allaah, which everyone enjoys. Accordingly, I believe that the Muslim minorities must form groups that invite to Allaah and that they have an Ameer having the qualities we mentioned previously and who they can consult with.

However, I cannot give a general rule as to how this should be structured exactly. These societies vary in number of their members, and in their material strength and, capabilities. However, it they are blessed with wisdom, this will enable them to form a society or group in a way that can help them to achieve their aims.

One person, for example, can give talks in the mosque while another might invite people to Islaam individually. Another could collect money donated by people, while someone else could be treasurer. It is not possible for me to give a general rule in this matter because of the different kinds of societies and because of their differing circumstances. However, what is extremely important is that they appoint an Ameer who they can turn to and consult.

       it is very clear from the above that the most hindrance for the Islamic da’wa in kerala is your group that zubair mankada and his unfortunate yesmen who are resembling with jews about whom Allah has cursed upon in Qur’an for not enjoining the good and prohibiting the evils since this unfortunate athikaad group also used to say that da’wa must be done by Kibaarul Ulema and organization formed for da’wa are bidha etc. I seek refuge with Allah. 

Next from Ibnu Baaz rahimahulla which also clearly against your propaganda.

Fatwas of Ibn Baz

Giving opinion on establishing a scholarly Salafy organization under the name The Qur'an and Sunnah Charitable Association in Khartoum - Sudan

Dear Eminent prominent Shaykh/ `Abdul-`Aziz ibn `Abdullah ibn Baz may Allah safeguard you!

As-salamu `alaykum warahmatullah wabarakatuh (May Allah's Peace, Mercy, and Blessings be upon you!)

May Allah grant you good health and increase you in Iman (Faith) and piety! To commence:

Q: We are a group of Du`ah (callers to Islam) and seekers of Islamic knowledge in Sudan whom Allah granted belief in the `Aqidah (creed) of our Salaf (righteous predecessors) regarding Tawhid (belief in the Oneness) of Allah's `Ibadah (worship), Names, Attributes, etc. Our aim is to serve the purpose of seeking Islamic knowledge, spreading it amongst people, and making Da`wah (calling to Islam) all over the world in the same way that it was done by our Salaf. We also aim at teaching people the affairs of their Din (religion) regarding Tawhid (monotheism), pillars of Islam, etc. We also want to combat Shirk (associating others with Allah in His Divinity or worship) and Bid`ahs (innovations in religion), to call to sticking to the Qur'an and Sunnah according to the understanding of our Salaf, to encourage virtue and eliminate vice, and to educate people about good morals and take them away from bad ones. We cooperate with all those who make Da`wah in the right and proper way, for Allah (Exalted be He) says: Help you one another in Al-Birr and At-Taqwâ (virtue, righteousness and piety) On the other hand, we do not form a factional coalition or a party. We are not partial to specific leaders or organizations and we do not base our Al-Wala' wal-Bara' (loyalty and disassociation) on any of the foregoing ties. Rather, our Wala' (loyalty) and Bara' (disassociation) are for Allah's sake as was the way of our Salaf. Our work is mainly to establish educational centers, build Masjids (mosques), religious institutes, schools for Qur'an memorization, and public libraries. We also release beneficial books, scholarly studies, and tapes. Besides, we propagate Hijab (veil) and do our best to make our Ummah (nation) more attached to its pious scholars. We thus founded a scholarly Salafy (based on the way followed by righteous predecessors) organization that is run by a group of graduates of different Islamic universities in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. The concerned organization was started by graduates who have studied under the most knowledgeable Shaykhs of Salafiyyah (those following the way of the righteous predecessors) and who called it the Qur'an and Sunnah Charitable Association in Khartoum. The question now is whether it is permissible to work towards achieving the goals mentioned above through the concerned association? It is noteworthy that we do not abide by the system of any specific group in Sudan as we disagree with such groups on certain issues but we maintain brotherly relationships and cooperate with them in truth. Provide us with your beneficial answer, please! Answer:  The approach that you referred to above regarding Da`wah and guiding people to goodness through the Qur'an, Sunnah, and the way of Salaf is a right approach that we advise you to stay firm on. We enjoin you to cooperate with all other Du`ahs in Sudan and anywhere else in all that conforms to Qur'an, Sunnah, and the practice of Salaf. You should thus clarify Tawhid along with its proofs and warn against Shirk, its means, Bid`ahs, and different kinds of sins. It is worth mentioning that you should use the best wording and mention the Shar`y (Islamic legal) proofs for all the foregoing. Allah (Exalted be He) says: And who is better in speech than he who [says: “My Lord is Allâh (believes in His Oneness),” and then stands firm (acts upon His Order), and] invites (men) to Allâh’s (Islâmic Monotheism), and does righteous deeds Allah (Glorified be He) also says: Say (O Muhammad صلى الله عليه و سلم): "This is my way; I invite unto Allâh (i.e. to the Oneness of Allâh - Islâmic Monotheism) with sure knowledge, I and whosoever follows me (also must invite others to Allâh i.e. to the Oneness of Allâh - Islâmic Monotheism with sure knowledge). http://www.alifta.net/Fatawa/FatawaDetails.aspx?View=Page&PageID=1176&PageNo=1&BookID=14 Alhamdulillah it is clear from the above fatwas of great scholars of salafiyyah that forming an organisation to invite people to islam with governing bodies like treasurer, secretary etc are permitted in Islam and those spreading “malicious gossib” against such islamic bodies are enemies of Islam and Muslims. I seek refuge with Allah from such people. Ironically those living athikaad, Nilambur “special group” are urging Muslims to join with Muslim league. Subahanallah!!! I do not wish to write you in this way as I had good regards to you as a unbiased person, but unfortunately after you shifted to Athikad, nilambur it looks you have affected with the disease of partisanship to zubair. Allahu knows best. I hope my stand is clear to you in regards to organization and it was not my intention to hurt you any way. May Allah help us to steadfast with haq. Aameen Barakallahu feek